La saison s'annonce longue pour Rossi...

HRC-E.B. · 20/03/2007, 15h40

Tiré d'un article de Dennis Noyes sur www.speedtv.com:

"Rossi looked at ease on the podium, accepting that, on the day, he had been beaten by a clean ride from a young new rival, but also knowing that the Ducati’s speed along the straight had been the key. His Yamaha M1 was effective in the technical parts of the track where Rossi was clearly the fastest rider in Qatar, but, at the end of the day, the Yamaha was 17th out of the 20 bikes in top speed and was outgunned down the straight not just by Stoner’s Ducati but also by Pedrosa’s trim and powerful Honda.

Just how slow was the M1? Well, it would have been the 17th fastest out of the 23 bikes entered in the World Superbike round held at the same Losail track on March 24th. In fact, both Yamaha YZF-R1s, ridden in SBK by Troy Corser and Noriyuki Haga, recorded identical speeds of 190.8 in race trim, compared to the best speed of 188.25 by Rossi on the M1 in the race."

"In the first segment, that included the fastest part of the straight and the shorter back straight, Stoner held a 1.33-second advantage when segment times from all 22 laps for Rossi and Stoner were added up. In the second section, more technical and slower, Rossi clawed back an accumulated 3.922 second-advantage in 22 laps. In the third segment, a mixture of slow and fast corners, the two were virtually equal (with a .036 second edge for Stoner), but the final fast section, including three quarters of the home straight, is where Stoner took back the lead and then some. In this final segment Stoner ran up a 3.364-second advantage over the first 22 laps until the final lap when Rossi threw in the towel."

"In the first race under the new 800cc limit, Stoner never needed anyone’s draft to produce speeds lap after lap of 19- to-195 mph range while Rossi ran in the 185-to-188 mph range. The result was a very visible advantage that allowed Stoner to own the fifth and sixth gear sections of the track. This was no raceday anomaly. The Yamaha is just down on power compared to the Ducati and the Honda, and, if top speed is a true indicator, down also compared to the Suzuki and the Kawasaki."

"Of the 18 tracks that compose the 2007 MotoGP schedule, nine of them allowed last year’s 990cc MotoGP machines to reach top speeds of over 310 km/h (192.6mph) or more, and that has got to be a worry for Yamaha after being smoked down the straights in Qatar."

Espérons que les ingénieurs de Yamaha pourront relever ce défi et fournir à Valentino une monture plus compétitive pour le reste de la saison!

FoVeUrBeN · 20/03/2007, 15h53

j'ai entendu entre les branches qu'ils vont mettre un slip-on akrapovic pis un ensemble de collant qui vient de e-bay.

ça devrait aller chercher une 10aine de rw-hp et lui permettre d'être on-par avec les ducattis pour le power

c'est sérieusement alarmant par exemple que les R1 LE en SBK atteignent les mêmes top-speed que la nouvelle M1.

NixGsxR · 20/03/2007, 17h27

on s'entend que avec un autre geerage la m1 aurais eu un top speed tres tres different.... rossi a du choisir ce setup en fonction des essaie qui étais beaucoup plus vite dans le secteur sinueux que la duc

pas mal certain que la m1 est capable de faire plus il a quand meme abaisser le temps de lans passé...

ya quand meme fini 2e par dernier

bref on verra dans le prochaine episode ahah

Hayamaniac · 20/03/2007, 18h00

Y a tu quelqu'un qui s'inquiete pour Rossi?!!!

FoVeUrBeN · 20/03/2007, 18h41

bah, peut-etre que c'est volontaire... ya mis un restrictor plate dans l'intake pcq sinon, il battait tout le monde beaucoup trop facilement.

V90 · 20/03/2007, 19h07

Fack Rossi he makes moto GP as boring as Formula.
Change is good

down with the the Doctor

RdKetchup · 20/03/2007, 20h06

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c'est sérieusement alarmant par exemple que les R1 LE en SBK atteignent les mêmes top-speed que la nouvelle M1.

1- Le R1 LE n'existe plus en 2007.

2- Les vitesses prisent en Superbike avaient-elle un head-wind, comme c'était le cas durant la course de MotoGP? J'en doute fortement.

HRC-E.B. · 21/03/2007, 18h09

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c'est sérieusement alarmant par exemple que les R1 LE en SBK atteignent les mêmes top-speed que la nouvelle M1.

1- Le R1 LE n'existe plus en 2007.

2- Les vitesses prisent en Superbike avaient-elle un head-wind, comme c'était le cas durant la course de MotoGP? J'en doute fortement.

Regarde même dans les vitesses d'essais et de qualif des MotoGP: personne dans les 200 mph. Il y avait plusieurs superbikes dans les 200... Bref, les MotoGP n'ont plus le monopole de la vitesse en ligne droite.

**chaosExpanding** · 21/03/2007, 19h21

Il n'était pas question qu'ils baissent la cylindrée des Superbikes aussi ?

RdKetchup · 21/03/2007, 20h36

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Il n'était pas question qu'ils baissent la cylindrée des Superbikes aussi ?

Au contraire, Ducati veux faire monter la limite à 1200cc pour les V-Twins

20/03/2007, 15h40	#1 (permalink)
HRC-E.B. Contributeur Date d'inscription: avril 2004 Localisation: Centre-ville Messages: 5 126 Pouvoir de réputation: 11 Reputation: 219 Moto: VFR800 (Street Couch), GSX-R600 (Track Bitch), Honda XR100 (Mini-Motard)	La saison s'annonce longue pour Rossi... Tiré d'un article de Dennis Noyes sur www.speedtv.com: "Rossi looked at ease on the podium, accepting that, on the day, he had been beaten by a clean ride from a young new rival, but also knowing that the Ducati’s speed along the straight had been the key. His Yamaha M1 was effective in the technical parts of the track where Rossi was clearly the fastest rider in Qatar, but, at the end of the day, the Yamaha was 17th out of the 20 bikes in top speed and was outgunned down the straight not just by Stoner’s Ducati but also by Pedrosa’s trim and powerful Honda. Just how slow was the M1? Well, it would have been the 17th fastest out of the 23 bikes entered in the World Superbike round held at the same Losail track on March 24th. In fact, both Yamaha YZF-R1s, ridden in SBK by Troy Corser and Noriyuki Haga, recorded identical speeds of 190.8 in race trim, compared to the best speed of 188.25 by Rossi on the M1 in the race." "In the first segment, that included the fastest part of the straight and the shorter back straight, Stoner held a 1.33-second advantage when segment times from all 22 laps for Rossi and Stoner were added up. In the second section, more technical and slower, Rossi clawed back an accumulated 3.922 second-advantage in 22 laps. In the third segment, a mixture of slow and fast corners, the two were virtually equal (with a .036 second edge for Stoner), but the final fast section, including three quarters of the home straight, is where Stoner took back the lead and then some. In this final segment Stoner ran up a 3.364-second advantage over the first 22 laps until the final lap when Rossi threw in the towel." "In the first race under the new 800cc limit, Stoner never needed anyone’s draft to produce speeds lap after lap of 19- to-195 mph range while Rossi ran in the 185-to-188 mph range. The result was a very visible advantage that allowed Stoner to own the fifth and sixth gear sections of the track. This was no raceday anomaly. The Yamaha is just down on power compared to the Ducati and the Honda, and, if top speed is a true indicator, down also compared to the Suzuki and the Kawasaki." "Of the 18 tracks that compose the 2007 MotoGP schedule, nine of them allowed last year’s 990cc MotoGP machines to reach top speeds of over 310 km/h (192.6mph) or more, and that has got to be a worry for Yamaha after being smoked down the straights in Qatar." Espérons que les ingénieurs de Yamaha pourront relever ce défi et fournir à Valentino une monture plus compétitive pour le reste de la saison! __________________ "The same law that gives you the right to say anything you want also gives me the right to ridicule what you say mercilessly." Dennis Miller "If you find a way to make it foolproof, nature will find a way to make a better fool!" "In theory, there is no difference between theory & practice. In practice, there is."

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20/03/2007, 15h53	#2 (permalink)
FoVeUrBeN World champion Date d'inscription: mars 2006 Localisation: St-Constant Messages: 1 711 Pouvoir de réputation: 5 Reputation: 268 Moto: Race Replicas are faster (R6)	j'ai entendu entre les branches qu'ils vont mettre un slip-on akrapovic pis un ensemble de collant qui vient de e-bay. ça devrait aller chercher une 10aine de rw-hp et lui permettre d'être on-par avec les ducattis pour le power c'est sérieusement alarmant par exemple que les R1 LE en SBK atteignent les mêmes top-speed que la nouvelle M1.

20/03/2007, 17h27	#3 (permalink)
NixGsxR World champion Date d'inscription: mai 2003 Localisation: SHerbrooke Messages: 1 109 Pouvoir de réputation: 0 Reputation: 10 Moto: GsxR 750 k5 Memory Godz	on s'entend que avec un autre geerage la m1 aurais eu un top speed tres tres different.... rossi a du choisir ce setup en fonction des essaie qui étais beaucoup plus vite dans le secteur sinueux que la duc pas mal certain que la m1 est capable de faire plus il a quand meme abaisser le temps de lans passé... ya quand meme fini 2e par dernier bref on verra dans le prochaine episode ahah

20/03/2007, 18h00	#4 (permalink)
Hayamaniac World champion Date d'inscription: juin 2006 Messages: 505 Pouvoir de réputation: 4 Reputation: 17 Moto: n'a pu	Y a tu quelqu'un qui s'inquiete pour Rossi?!!!

20/03/2007, 18h41	#5 (permalink)
FoVeUrBeN World champion Date d'inscription: mars 2006 Localisation: St-Constant Messages: 1 711 Pouvoir de réputation: 5 Reputation: 268 Moto: Race Replicas are faster (R6)	bah, peut-etre que c'est volontaire... ya mis un restrictor plate dans l'intake pcq sinon, il battait tout le monde beaucoup trop facilement.

20/03/2007, 19h07	#6 (permalink)
V90 Stunter Date d'inscription: mai 2005 Localisation: None Messages: 430 Pouvoir de réputation: 0 Reputation: 10 Moto: Suzuki TL1000S	Fack Rossi he makes moto GP as boring as Formula. Change is good down with the the Doctor

21/03/2007, 19h21	#9 (permalink)
chaosExpanding Moderateur Date d'inscription: janvier 2003 Localisation: St-Lambert Messages: 5 289 Pouvoir de réputation: 13 Reputation: 348 Moto: '90 Yamaha FZR400 full factory + Honda XR100	Il n'était pas question qu'ils baissent la cylindrée des Superbikes aussi ?