Suzuki GSX-R 600 Srad...

[ChucK]

Bonjours, je suis nouveau et jaimerai macheter une moto .

jaime le suzuki 600 srad.. pourrier vous me donner des info. sur le comportement de cette moto ou ses defaults..


merci davance

ChucK

YES!! Enfin une question technique a laquelle jsuis qualifiee pour repondre!!

Mais bon avant de commencer, si t'a 17 ans... oublie ca parce-que les assurances vont te saigner a blanc

[Raisthlin]

en effet à moin que ce sois maman et papa qui paie pour toi et qu'il soit vraiment bien financierement oublie tout de suite le srad car tu va payer plusieurs et je repete vraiment PLUSIEURS milliers de dollars en assurance.

opte pour une moto de debutant de type sport/routiere et non super-sport.

[ChucK]

d`accord pour lassurance je suis bien au courant..

oui je suis chanceu je suis dans une famille ou tout le monde se promene en moto... et mes parent pourrai soccuper des assurance..



mais dapres vous kel serai une bonne moto pour moi.. jai quand meme de lexperience en matiere conduite de moto et motocross...

mon cousin sest procurer un KLR 650 .. il ma dit que les assurance etai bcp moin elever.. seraice un bon choix?

mais proposer moi kelke moto pareil...

merci

ChucK

Tout depend de ton budget... si les assurances c'est pas un probleme et t'a de l'experience en moto, jte conseillerais le gsxr600, pourquoi pas Moi j'avais aucune experience de moto et jsuis aller me chercher un gsxr 600 2002. A part une ptite sortie de route qui a resulte en un fairing grafigner, tout va tres bien et jsuis extremement satisfait de mon choix

[Josie]

Moi j'ai un Kawa ZX-6 1994 à vendre... très bonne moto pour commencer. J'ai un jet kit aussi, ça améliore la performance..
Va voir dans la section À vendre. Ca dépends si tu veux du neuf ou non.

Au plaisir de te voir sur les routes!

Lire ca: ca vien du www.gixxer.com un tres bon site pour t'as question...
mais lire ce partie texte en bas..tu decidra par la suite quel moto t'es meiux a acheter..




After a rash of posts about what bike to get as a first bike, and a lot of posts defending the reasoning behind "only a 600" or "having respect", or "too big to ride a small bike"....

Why not a GSXR/R6/ZXR/CBR/996 etc?

Well, I am not sure that the fact that these are "only 600's" means a great deal, they are seen as "slow" by newer riders, and therefore easier to master than the 1000cc versions. Many people have said that they feel a 750 would be fine.

I guess that your idea of slow, is a fair bit different to mine. My idea of slow is something that accelerates like, say, a Geo Metro, not something that accelerates faster than a Dodge Viper.

Lets face it, the modern 600 is faster than a 750 of six or seven years ago, in a straight line, up to about 130mph.......

Six years ago the 750 class was in the middle of open warefare season, the (then new) SRAD 750 was the king of the beasts, trouncing the CBR900RR, and the FZR1000 or Chunderace) and destroying everything else in its path. Not just in a straight line either, but the 96 SRAD was a marvellous corner carver.

In its day, it was brutal - it still is, wild head shakes, inadvertant wheelies, and an utterly brutal rush beyond 10K RPM.

The latest 600's whilst just as fast, are only slightly more civilised, the power is not as brutal, but there is still a huge rush, and on the dyno they are only a couple of HP short of the benchmark.

So the power of the latest 600's is amazing, there is frankly more than 99% of people can use, and more than anyone can need on the street - on the track its a different matter, but we are talking street bikes here.....

Its not just the power either, its the power delivery.

These bikes are race-bikes with lights, or at least they are very, very similar to race bikes. In order to be competative in racing, where modifications are minimal, the engines are tuned to be very "racer friendly". The throttle response beyond a few thousand revs is instant, this is great if you are on a track, but merely OK on the road. If you are heavy-handed, it can be very dangerous. The MSF course teaches you to roll on the throttle in a curve, to a newr rider, rolling on is just that, add 1/4 turn maybe ? Well with a modern sports bike 1/4 turn is FULL throttle. Rolling on on these bikes means may 1/32nd of a turn - if that.

This is not a nice trait - you have just gone from 20hp to 80hp in the blink of an eye, and you lowsided - if you are lucky- into the scenery.

So, handling is the next problem.

These bikes are race bikes with lights, this means that they are super-fast handling. In fact they are astonishingly nervous, in order to make they turn fast, they are set-up to respond to minute inputs, and this is another major issue for a new rider. A new rider will not have the subltly of input that the bike needs, rather than push the bars, you apply a slight pressure, and the bike sails into the bends, push on the bars hard, and it becomes all nervous and unsettled, and again, the new rider may be lucky to get through the bend.

Obviously this will not be a good thing - to an experienced rider these bikes feel planted, and predictable, for a new rider, they feel horrible, and your confidence takes a hit.

Ok - Brakes

Again, these bikes are similar to race bikes. One of the few places that they differ is in the braking department. The brake pads have to last a little longer than race compound ones, so they are a little less brutal than those on a racer, also they have rubber hoses, which have a little "give" in them, making it harder to lock the fronts.

But, they are still eye-poppingly good, its possible to stand any of these bikes on its nose, at really, really high speeds, assumning you are hard enough on the brakes.

Then there is the rear brake, and again this is overly efficient, all too easy to lock it, all to easy to high-side as a result of the locked brake.

Repair costs.

As they are race replica's they comer covered in expensive plastic. Each side is $600 or more. A slow-speed drop could easily cost you over $1000 just in plastic bits. Add to that the normal "consumables" and you are in the $1300 range for a 10mph spill.

Combine all of these factors, and I hope that you see why a sportsbike is not a good first bike.

It has exactly the wrong set of characteristics for a new rider to learn to ride. Its too fast, too responsive, too twitchy, too nervous, the brakes are too sharp and they cost a lot to fix.

I'm not going to tell you that you should not get one (I'm not your mother), just that you need to bear in mind that these bikes belong in the "expert class", not the "new rider" one.

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[Paul750]

KLR 650, j'en ai eu un et j'ai beaucoup aime. Tres pratique, bon pour voyager, faire de la trail, bon petit bike pour les courbes serrees. Par contre, au dela de 120km/h ca commence a rusher un peu. A 120 t'as le meme feeling qu'a 160 sur une sport. Vraiment pas cher a assurer. Gros point negatif pour ceux qui sont assez petits: la moto est pas mal haute.

J'ai un GSXR750 air/huile, tres performant, mais franchment pour ce que tu gagnes en performances par rapport au KLR, tu le perds X3 en cout d'assurances, pneus, manque de confort, pas d'acces aux trails, ca cogne dur sur les bosses, mauvais pour voyager.... bref, je viens de me racheter un bike de trail, un suzuki DR650 cette fois-ci.

Ca fait 2 semaines que je l'ai et je l'adore. Comme premier bike c'est excellent, et meme mieux que le KLR parce que plus fiable et le siege est plus bas (important si tu est en bas de 5'. Moi je fais 6'0, mais le fait que le centre de gravite est plus bas ameliore le handling.

J'ai roule sur un SRAD 600 pendant une semaine. Tres smooth et bonne puissance, mais confort fait dur.

[_Eti_sv_]

SV 650S super de bonne moto pour commencez... je ne le dirais j'amais assez je crois..

[ChucK]

Je vous remerci pour votre aide..

je suis quand meme plutot chanceu cars je suis grand... 6`3

je suis venu lautre jour a laval voir a votre rencontre cetai un mardi et il y avait un dr 650 je crois.. il etai bleu ... je lai trouver vraiment beau.. j'aimerai une moto dans ce genre poure debuter..

merci a tous


ChucK