06 gsxr 600 and 06 R6 dyno

[racerdude413]

http://www.pnwriders.com/forum/showthread.php?t=6208


Hacking et DiSalvo sont peut etre rapide sur le R6 mais a voir ce dyno, je prefere de loin la courbe de puissance du GSXR

[BigMatt]

Suzuki>Yamaha.

YamahaGraves i see you coming Relax Dude we still likes Yamaha

[HRC-E.B.]

Assuredly pre-production models; I wonder how illustrative of production machines this is. Probably close to it, though I would venture to say that the number may not be as high for the production models...

Anyway, looks like my little CBR, though probably topped in outright maximum power, certainly isn't blown into the weeds by either of these.

Looks, based on the curve, that the Gixxer will be the easiest of the two to ride and the R6 the more difficult (and exciting?) of the two...

J'ai hâte de pouvoir en essayer.

[BeachBoy]

yamahagraves did not post this yet? I can't beleive it, it's on other forums for a while already!!!

I'm still curious to see the comparo on the track. The curve is lower, but if you run x rpm higher you are still putting down the same power in the curve.

I do agree the curve is nowhere near smooth though. It's sad that there was no Yamaha engineers there and a bunch of suzuki engineers.

And the worse thing is the cut off which is FAR from the advertized 17500, I would have liked to see Yamaha engineer's answer to this.

E.

[racerdude413]

It's sad that there was no Yamaha engineers there and a bunch of suzuki engineers.

can you give me a link so i can see the suzuki enginers, because in the pictures on this post i dont see any.

[maxpat82]

pcq ca vient de motorfreaks.nl et que supposément il est capable de lire ca!
http://www.motorfreaks.nl/index.php/report/3086/3

[BeachBoy]

tu peux lacher ton air bête

c'est parce que ya une traduction disponible aussi

It's well known the World SS championship is one of the most interesting championships of all. Since a few years Ten Kate Honda dominates this class. Manufacturers dindn't like that so the came up with something new. The sporty K5 R6 and gsx-r600 where turned in to complete racebikes for 2006. These machines are the basis for suzuki and yamaha to knock honda of their top position.

Accept at the track, normal streets are still a place of competition. All manufactures want to rule the 600-class. In early days it was the 1000-class wich was battlefied for the most HP's and so, 600-class had now been the biggest class of interest.

At the Paris motorshow both yamaha and suzuki claimed to have the best and strongest 600-cc bike. Suzuki claimed to have 133 hp and the most torque on its new 600-R. This could only be proven in a test so we decided to do that test.

De krachtmeting ---> The competition

Here are the new two bikes. Several dealers were approched for this test. Both bikes were only run for 120 km's on a dyno, so still fresh! The test was completed at Safe Motors in Apeldoorn under the supervision of several Suzuki-chiefs. We (Moto73) rather have the bikes on the excact Jaros dyno, but it was tested on a ***hs dyno.

De metingen -----> Results

Enough information for now. The R6 is the first to go. It delivers 111 hp at 14374 rpm. That's not bad at all but the only thing that pops out is the low rpm. Yamaha claimed to run the R6 at a maximum of 17.500 rpm. It stopped at 15.800 so Yamaha can't deliver what they promised after all. The R6 has a optimistic rpm-needle.

GSX-R600 is up, this is the moment we are all waiting for. Gixxer gives 108.2 hp at 13000 rpm. It has to let the R6 pass but there is one thing that is very good about the Gixxer, the power curve is much higher then the one of the R6. So we actually have two winners in the end.

We also brought an 05 ZX-6R to compare. It was used in our magazine's long-ride-test. The kawa brings up 113 hp. In overall i'ts al little bit stronger than the Gixxer, only because of the extra 36cc.

Nieuw uit de krat -----> New from the crate

We don't belive the results completely so we give it another try with a completely new bike. Suzuki gives us the new GSX-R600, the insist we run that one too. Time for coffee because it takes time to take the bike out of the box and prepare it for a dyno-run. After the mechanics are done with prepping, they start the run. What about breaking in the motor? Just hit it!

After the blue smokes cleares up we look at the results. It has just 0.4 hp less than the other GSX-R600 we ran today. But the power curve is the same as the other one!! So we conclude the gixxer is the best bike, with the best amount of torque. Let's wait an d find out at Philip Island what it's all about.

De uitdraaien ----> resluts

The differences could't be bigger. Yamaha concentrated on top end power and the gsx-r is the strongest bike overall with much torque. It's the same conclusion after the introduction in Qatar, you have to keep the R6 above 11k rpm.

If we look closer we can see that gsx is much stronger @ 7000 rpm: 6 HP! @ 9000 rpm that difference grows to 8 HP. @ 10.000 rpm the difference is huge: 83 vs 71 hp. After the gixxer hits max power, the R6 can pass this power.

The green frog should be the strongest of all. that was expected. The bike had ran 39.000 km in out test. It has 36 cc more so you can't really compare the three bikes in a right way. Compliments for Suzuki to have build a bike that seems as more than a 600 cc bike!

Comparing the two gixxers you would suggest it was the same bike. Luckily we where there to see it were two bikes, otherwise we would'nt believe it all.

E.

[LaResistance]

Cool, il y a le video sur le site motorfreak

http://www.motorfreaks.nl/index.php?...ownload&id=618


Apres avoir mis le texte dans un traducteur Dutch->francais je ne vois nul part ou il disent que les ingénieur suzuki étaient présent. Mais j'avoue que la traduction était merdique.

Si les 2 dynoruns sont représentatives, moi aussi je préfère la courbe du gsx-r.

[LaResistance]

Cool, ta version est beaucoup plus facile a lire :P

La seul chose est qu'on peu pas dire que Suzuki a trafiqué les resultats avec un pre-production, ils ont sortie un autre bike du crate pour valider leur resultat.

[maxpat82]

Envoyé par BeachBoy

under the supervision of several Suzuki-chiefs

Chiefs: et tu traduit ca en Ingenieur toi??

ahh bon, j'ai tjs su que les gnégnénieur avait seulement besoin d'un Bac en Administration.


Serieux ca peut etre simplement des porteux de cravate, rien a voir avec les ingénieurs!