About to do oil change.. and here is my question

[kawa_ninja]

Weather is getting warmer.. thinking to bring my bike out from the garage in a week or so..
I am about to do the oil change and here is my question
you guys know Canadian Tire sells locus oil stabilizer thing
i was thinking to add it to my Ninja ZX9R
i know locus oil stabilizer is for cars and i am just wonder if i am able to add it to my bike as well? anyone??
thanks

[jlv031]

oil in your bike serve for your engine as well as your transmission so I woudnt put additive for car oil cause you dont know what its going to do with your gears/clutch .. in my opinion.

[kawa_ninja]

ic.. thanks
another question is Torco T4 10W40 oil a good choice?

[RAF 383]

Motorbike oil only... don't try anything else... And take a GOOD one... don't be cheap or your engine will suffer

[chip7]

As said before:

Motorcycle oil lubes the tranny. Dont put anything else than motorcycle purposed oil. Besides, oil is very cheap compared to engine repair. So put some quality stuff and change it often! Wether you want mineral, semi-synthetic or full synthetic depends on your biking religion, and is open to just as big of a debate among gearheads!

[kawa_ninja]

thanks for the reply guys.. so is Torco T4 10W40 oil a good choice? or i have to go synthetic blend or Full synthetic to be on the safe side??
thanks

[chip7]

Envoyé par kawa_ninja

thanks for the reply guys.. so is Torco T4 10W40 oil a good choice? or i have to go synthetic blend or Full synthetic to be on the safe side??
thanks

I don't know Torco oils, so i can't say. You have to be carefull if you change oil type (synthetic or mineral). You can go one way without trouble but not the other way around without a flushing. I can't remember which is which unfortunately

[juice]

Envoyé par chip7

I don't know Torco oils, so i can't say. You have to be carefull if you change oil type (synthetic or mineral). You can go one way without trouble but not the other way around without a flushing. I can't remember which is which unfortunately

FALSE, you can change back and forth from between mineral and synth without any problem but NEVER put any additives in your oil

[chip7]

Hey, look at what i've found !!

Source : http://www.carbibles.com/engineoil_bible.html

Mixing Mineral and Synthetic oils - the old and busted concepts

For the longest time, I had this to say about mixing mineral and synthetic oils:

* If you've been driving around with mineral oil in your engine for years, don't switch to synthetic oil without preparation. Synthetic oils have been known to dislodge the baked-on deposits from mineral oils and leave them floating around your engine - not good. I learned this lesson the hard way! It's wise to use a flushing oil first.
* If you do decide to change, only go up the scale. If you've been running around on synthetic, don't change down to a mineral-based oil - your engine might not be able to cope with the degradation in lubrication. Consequently, if you've been using mineral oil, try a semi or a full synthetic oil. By degradation, I'm speaking of the wear tolerances that an engine develops based on the oil that it's using. Thicker mineral oils mean thicker layers of oil coating the moving parts (by microns though). Switching to a thinner synthetic oil can cause piston rings to leak and in some very rare cases, piston slap or crank vibration.
* Gaskets and seals! With the makeup of synthetic oils being different from mineral oils, mineral-oil-soaked gaskets and seals have been known to leak when exposed to synthetic oils. Perhaps not that common an occurrence, but worth bearing in mind nevertheless.

Mixing Mineral and Synthetic oils - the new hotness

That's the thing with progress - stuff becomes out-of-date. Fortunately for you, dear reader, the web is a great place to keep things up-to-date, so here's the current thinking on the subject of mixing mineral and synthetic oils. This information is based on the answer to a technical question posed on the Shell Oil website.
There is no scientific data to support the idea that mixing mineral and synthetic oils will damage your engine. When switching from a mineral oil to a synthetic, or vice versa, you will potentially leave a small amount of residual oil in the engine. That's perfectly okay because synthetic oil and mineral-based motor oil are, for the most part, compatible with each other. (The exception is pure synetics. Polyglycols don't mix with normal mineral oils.)
There is also no problem with switching back and forth between synthetic and mineral based oils. In fact, people who are "in the know" and who operate engines in areas where temperature fluctuations can be especially extreme, switch from mineral oil to synthetic oil for the colder months. They then switch back to mineral oil during the warmer months.
There was a time, years ago, when switching between synthetic oils and mineral oils was not recommended if you had used one product or the other for a long period of time. People experienced problems with seals leaking and high oil consumption but changes in additive chemistry and seal material have taken care of those issues. And that's an important caveat. New seal technology is great, but if you're still driving around in a car from the 80's with its original seals, then this argument becomes a bit of a moot point - your seals are still going to be subject to the old leakage problems no matter what newfangled additives the oil companies are putting in their products.

I don't know if this is a load of crap, i'll leave the more technical people here be the judge of that. What i make of it is that if your bike is recent, there is no problem going back and forth from synth and mineral based oils. If it's older, there might be issues.

[HellCrow]

If you want a real scientific answer, as our "chem-guy".

His nickname here is chem-guy

Good luck !